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 Post subject: Eight Years of Partisan Smearing is Enough (says America)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:58 pm 
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A growing number of Americans believe John McCain has attacked Barack Obama unfairly, a negative perception of the Arizona senator that could cost him at the polls on Election Day.

According to a new survey from CNN and the Opinion Research Corp., nearly six in 10 Americans believe McCain has unfairly gone negative in his bid for the White House. That percentage is significantly higher than it was in September, when just 42 percent thought the Republican presidential nominee was running an overly negative campaign.

It also is higher than the 39 percent of Americans who believe Obama has gone unfairly negative on McCain.

Obama also has a slight lead over McCain when it comes to who is considered a stronger leader, an advantage that McCain had long held over the Illinois senator and one that has been a chief talking point of his campaign.

In recent weeks, both campaigns have stepped up spending on negative television ads and launched attacks at each other's record. But comments from both McCain and running mate Gov. Sarah Palin questioning Obama's relationship with former 1960s radical William Ayers have drawn particular scrutiny. The GOP ticket's recent suggestion Obama will seek to carry out "socialist" policies has also garnered negative reactions.

Obama is also seen as having a clearer plan for solving the country's problems, and more voters say they would be more proud to call Obama president than McCain, 49 percent to 37 percent. The Illinois senator is also viewed more favorably than his White House rival: 63 percent have a positive view of Obama while 56 percent view McCain favorably.

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As a related note, and believe me I hope I'm wrong. I see McCain winning this election, I see him winning it big. Who people say they are going to vote for publicly is one thing, actually casting their vote for an African-American is something. I think racism is going to raise it's ugly head in the voting booth. Again, I hope I'm wrong........................Bill


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As a related note, and believe me I hope I'm wrong. I see McCain winning this election, I see him winning it big. Who people say they are going to vote for publicly is one thing, actually casting their vote for an African-American is something. I think racism is going to raise it's ugly head in the voting booth. Again, I hope I'm wrong........................Bill


I hope you are right, but not for the same reasons (racism). There are plenty of good reasons to not vote for Obama.

Back on topic, Obama doesn't have to go after McCain/Palin as much because the media does it for him. On the flipside, if McCain did not go after Obama as much as he does, we'd never hear of half of what is wrong with the guy. This election season more than any time in our history has shown a clear media bias. Obama is the media's candidate.

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Believing as I do, if the media is really for Obama, then it is for their benefit. It has nothing to do with convictions. It has to do with money............Bill


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Believing as I do, if the media is really for Obama, then it is for their benefit. It has nothing to do with convictions. It has to do with money............Bill


Could be. . .but either way, objective journalism seems to be dead.

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Blurae1 wrote:
As a related note, and believe me I hope I'm wrong. I see McCain winning this election, I see him winning it big. Who people say they are going to vote for publicly is one thing, actually casting their vote for an African-American is something. I think racism is going to raise it's ugly head in the voting booth. Again, I hope I'm wrong........................Bill


Not quite the same as voting against someone because of their race, but many African -Americans will vote Obama because of his (partial) race. Not to say that most wouldn't vote the Democratic ticket anyway, but this year there seems to be almost a mandate to vote for Obama for this segment.

Either way, it's sad...

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WE ARE SPARTACI wrote:

Not quite the same as voting against someone because of their race, but many African -Americans will vote Obama because of his (partial) race.


IMO that is exactly the same thing. Voting...or not voting...for someone just because of their race is, IMO, a racist act.

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WE ARE SPARTACI wrote:

Not quite the same as voting against someone because of their race, but many African -Americans will vote Obama because of his (partial) race.


IMO that is exactly the same thing. Voting...or not voting...for someone just because of their race is, IMO, a racist act.

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I agree. I have heard from many that African Americans can't be accused of racism because they lack the overall power in society (others' words, not mine). It is ok for them to try and put down "the man" to advance their cause, many of them feel.

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Or look at it from this perspective. Blacks were brought here against their will as slaves, 12% of the US is black. We've had what, 42 white presidents, maybe they think the time is overdue, way overdue.......................Bill


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Or look at it from this perspective. Blacks were brought here against their will as slaves, 12% of the US is black. We've had what, 42 white presidents, maybe they think the time is overdue, way overdue.......................Bill



That should not translate into voting for the first one that gets into position to take the office, regardless of policies, record, and a severe lack of experience.

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Or look at it from this perspective. Some ancestors of many Blacks were brought here against their will as slaves, 12% of the US is black. We've had what, 42 white presidents, maybe they think the time is overdue, way overdue.......................Bill


Above quote adjusted for historic accuracy.

Over 50% of the US is female. We have also had 42 male VP's, give or take. Maybe the time for us to have a female VP is way overdue... :wink:

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Or look at it from this perspective. Blacks were brought here against their will as slaves, 12% of the US is black. We've had what, 42 white presidents, maybe they think the time is overdue, way overdue.......................Bill


Hmm...how many women have been president...a lot larger percentage of the population that that.

But...you prove my point. No matter what the reason, if they are voting for a candidate because he is black IMO it's a racist act. Same as if they are voting FOR the white guy because he is white and not black.

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