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Post by SCVStar » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:38 pm

In what way? High taxes on the rich didn't hurt us in the 90's..And it didn't hurt us when Reagan did it..It actually helped to increase government revenues. It adds way more to the deficit when you give huge tax cuts to the richest citizens. And I'm not for Obama's plan. Mainly for giving a tax credit to people who pay no income taxes..But in terms of the basis of his plan (tax rich more, give breaks to middle class) I have to agree with it under our progressive tax system.

I used Roosevelt because he's McCain's hero. And I find it funny that McCain calls T. Roosevelt his hero, yet he bashes Obama on socialism. I just find that ironic considering his hero was the "champion" of "the rich should be taxed more" theory. He is the founder of the Progressive party in case McCain didn't know. McCain even says he molds himself in the Roosevelt way. And if he and others think Obama's tax views are socialist, he/they should read a little history once and a while. Obama should of never said "spread the wealth around". It was dumb for him to do so..But if they thought that quote was bad, they would be shocked to read the quotes form T. Roosevelt regarding taxes. Also, the idea of socialism is to get rid of classes regarding wealth. And Obama's tax plan will do nothing to get rid of that..There will still be the very rich and the very poor.

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Post by Hostrauser » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:43 pm

Non sequitur: every time I see the title of this thread I hear Jim Mora's voice.

Taxes?????! What are you talking about? Taxes????! Get out of here. Taxes????!

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Post by tbutler » Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:18 pm

I heard that there might be increase in taxes for alcohol & tobacco. Well, I want to be patriotic like VP Biden wants us to be. Im going to start smoking and drinking again, having been clean & sober for over 20yrs. Be patriotic everybody!

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Post by LAMystreaux » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:34 am

tbutler wrote:I heard that there might be increase in taxes for alcohol & tobacco. Well, I want to be patriotic like VP Biden wants us to be. Im going to start smoking and drinking again, having been clean & sober for over 20yrs. Be patriotic everybody!
I was at the barber shop the other day and one of the women there said she was going to have to quit because of thie new tax. She said it was about to be $7/pack here.
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Post by Blurae1 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:24 am

Don't take this the wrong way, no political statement here. I don't really care if they go up to $40.00 a pack..................Bill

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Post by LAMystreaux » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:03 am

Blurae1 wrote:Don't take this the wrong way, no political statement here. I don't really care if they go up to $40.00 a pack..................Bill
Same here. . .won't bother me a bit and might encourage more to quit.
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Post by WE ARE SPARTACI » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:41 am

LAMystreaux wrote:
Blurae1 wrote:Don't take this the wrong way, no political statement here. I don't really care if they go up to $40.00 a pack..................Bill
Same here. . .won't bother me a bit and might encourage more to quit.
Yep, until it is something that affects you as an individual; something the government sees as an unnecessary or damaging activity that they want to tax out of existence.

Here are some more great ideas for behavior modification taxes:

*$4 per burger tax on Big Macs

*Heck let's just tax the heck out of red meat altogether

*Overweight? Let's tax people for each pound of excess flab

*Couch potato tax - A meter on your TV will determine your amount of tax due

*Government supplied treadmills - Tax based on miles logged; credit for anything over 20 miles a week, otherwise pay up

*Sky Dive or take part in any other high-risk hobby, start writing your Risk Takers Tax check


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Post by Blurae1 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:05 am

Forget the govt.. I don't care what they think. Believe me, cigarettes do\did affect me personally. I have a 13 inch scar running down the middle of my chest as a result of them. I know it was my choice to smoke. I'm not condemming those who do. I would have to condemm myself. I also know converts make the biggest zealots. However, red meat has a value, not to me of course, but a value none the less. But cigarettes, if I can do anything, anything at all to stop someone from having to going through bypass surgery I will. I don't care if they hate me. I know it is a miracle of modern science & it saves lives, beginning with my own, I thank God every day for it. I'd even do it again if I had to. But I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy................Bill

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Post by WE ARE SPARTACI » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:58 am

And so it goes...the anecdotal method of determining sound public policy. Not to downplay your experience, (I am certainly sympathetic to your situation) but thousands of non-smokers have bypass surgery, and millions of smokers do not. While there is a cause and effect factor in your situation and smoking is not something I recommend (unless it's an occasional fine cigar - yummy!), taxing the crap out of lower income people (the majority of smokers) does little but take more of their money from them. Or in my city, creates a black market for product from that comes from across the border.
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Post by tbutler » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:09 am

The goverment are planning to tax drugs in the near future. Including the the ones that comes over the border illegal. Remember, the drug dealers are not paying their fair share in taxes.

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Post by tbutler » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:38 pm

I've just heard that the city of Portland Or. is planning to tax "bicycle riders". Also, dont drive your automobile to far, they are planning to tax the amount of mileage you drive in a year.

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Post by buckofan » Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:53 am

Wondering what the opinions would be here if they added $10 tax per ticket on live performance events including DCI?

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Post by Blurae1 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:58 pm

Actually that one has been going on for years, certainly here in Louisiana. Any time there is an event in the Stupidome in NO or the UNO assembly center or the Pontchatrain center, an amusement tax is added on & included in the cost of a ticket. Other venues may have them as well, those are the ones I know about. I know this is not unusual, as the Gulf Coast Coliseum in Biloxi MS has them also. Furthermore, to get a copy of a teacher certificate here cost $25.00. Surely, it doesn't cost that much to Xerox a copy. It is my experience, certainly in Louisiana, that money is required when dealing with the state. Everything is way over priced. To sell coffee on the side of the street in N.O. during Mardi Gras requires a $1500.00 license good for 2 weeks.
The price of a free society is expensive.
Along the same line, people who smoke can't get more than $10,000.00 under our plan. Our agent says some health insurance plans do not include smokers. A full 75% of bypass surgeries are caused at least in part by smoking. This according to our insurance underwriter. In point of fact, according to Baron's magazine (a few years ago) in a poll taken of personnel officers, obesity is one of the factors taken into consideration when hiring new employees.
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Post by tbutler » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:02 pm

Isnt that discrimination when you dont hire a person because of his or hers weight? I know a few corps that if you are overweight they wont let you in, no matter how good you are.

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Post by Blurae1 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:12 am

I really don't know if that is descrimination or not. I certainly would not get the job. That is one of the reasons I'm against drug testing.......................Bill

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