Quote: so your all saying just because there are more div iii corps more should get to go to finals. well what about the corps that earn a higher score and earned that spot in finals.
What I'm saying is that there should be at least some semblance of proportional representation for the divisions. Otherwise, why bother even having divisions at all if you're going to blur the distinctions come finals week?
Quote: and all this circualr reasoning about size and ge score, its all just excuces.
In general, it's true. A smaller corps has a much harder time getting a good GE score than a big corps. Just look at the recaps from finals, for example; as you go down the line, for the most part, the score gets lower the smaller the corps is.
Quote: Manderins first year in DII, 2000, they were not all that much bigger than a div iii corps and finished second.
Div. II corps were also smaller on average then than they were in 2001 and 2002.
Quote: i looked around corpsreps and all throught the 90's if the new system was applied there wouldhave been a much more equal distribution of corps from the 2 division at finals, some seasons with dIII dominating finals night.
Perhaps then, but not now, and probably not in the near future. I think that if this current system continues to be the one in use, we will continue to see an underrepresentation of Div. III in finals.
Quote: you are rewarded for excellence and the corps who are rewarded are the ones making the descisions, ie the top 21 making all the dewscisions that affect drum corps.
The question, then, is "Is this the best situation for the activity?" I and many others would say, no, it isn't, because it leaves the smaller corps, especially those aspiring to be bigger, in the dust while catering only to those that are already successful. If DCI's mission is to have better, more stable corps, then it should work to help those that are up and coming as much as those that have achieved the ability to compete in open class.
Quote: They are not the loudest corps on the field, but they rack up the GE points by their ensembleship, their performance style, and with an attitude that states that they can do anything.
Yes, and Blue Stars have achieved success with largely the same thing. However, we still can't compete with corps that much larger than us. Mandarins finally capitulated to a somewhat larger corps, Cap Reg, and never had a chance at getting near Magic. As I said, there's no point in having divisions if you are going to treat them as one big group anyway come finals, and in my opinion, eliminating division lines wouldn't be healthy for some of the smaller Div. III corps.
Quote: The tallent level in Div 3 is clearly under estimated I think. You just have to have a staff that knows how to put it together correctly. And blowing your brains out just to make your corps sound louder isn't the answer.
Certainly not. It's about executing as best you know how; if you're able to put out a bigger sound, so much the better. I know we somehow managed to pull that off, but that certainly wasn't the case in past years.
Quote: Mandarins, as a D3 group were scoring in the mid 90s at times.... it is possible.
But, I will admit... putting a less than 30 hornline up against a 60+......yeah, a disadvantage, but the Mandarins have defeated full Div 1 hornlines in the past as well.
As have Blue Stars; technical proficiency isn't always the issue, though it often is. Mandarins and Blue Stars are/were traditionally the oldest corps in Div. III average age-wise, I think it's pretty safe to say, so a good deal of talent was available. The members do their best, but they will have a much harder time beating them at the effect game, which is usually what it comes down to.
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