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Post by SCVBaritone » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:32 pm

Does Anyone out there know where AJ Vierra Is ? He was the horn instructor and arranger for the Joaquin Cabelleros, a big sound corps with a jazzy east coast style from the 1964 to 1967 era in Nor-Cal.In addition he taught the San Leandro Royalaires and the Capitolaires of Sacramento,Ca. AJ also performed with in his early days with the Marksmen of Springfield,Ma. The Cabs were a joy to listen to because at that time drum corps hadn't reached the level it is today. The Cabelleros had a big horn line and sound to match and great tunes like Misty,Spanish Eyes and Spanish Harlem and the list goes on. I last heard he moved to So-Cal and was involved with the Velvet Knights in the early 70's. I would like to hear from AJ again and thank him for introducing me to drum corps.
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Post by Brian Tolzmann » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:50 pm

At first I was going to tell you to get in contact with Manuel Pimentel Jr, who was in charge of the Joaquin Cabs, but a search online shows that Manuel Pimentel is a VERY common name around the country (something like 37 listings).

You might want to drop an e-mail to the San Francisco Renegades. I saw that they had some people in their organization who were once with the Joaquin Cabs. Their e-mail is: info@renegades.org

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Post by SCVBaritone » Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:36 pm

Thanks Brian, Your'e right, the Renegades do have x-Cabs performing with them.I'll contact them. AJ's solo's during competitions were almost always flawless.You seem to know alot about the old drum corps scene in California. When you mentioned Manuel Pimentel's name I immediatly recognized it. Did you ever get a chance to see any shows back them?..I mean way.....back? Like 64,65..Ben
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Post by Brian Tolzmann » Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:53 pm

I never got a chance to see the Cabs, but I've done lots of drum corps research over the years, so that corps is familiar to me.

According to my files the Cabs played such music as:

1962--The Gay Ranchero

1963--Poinciana, El Cid, Dancero, Battle Cry Of Freedom, Entrance To The Bull Ring, Malaguena, Old Devil Moon, Spanish Harlem, Granada

1964--El Gato Montez, Malaguena, The Continental, Poinciana, Spanish Harlem

1965--Johnny One-Note, This Is A Great Country, Adios, Spanish Harlem

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Post by SCVBaritone » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:39 am

Brian, your research is right on target. I watch all those performances except for 1963. There is one person who has a tape recording of a show recorded at either College of the Pacific in Stockton or Edison HS, also in Stockton,Ca and that is Jeff Leeson a former snair drummer for the Santa Clara Vanguard. It also includes a baritone solo by me for the Royalaires exit number Smile........Ah..the glory days...Ben 8-)
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Post by Mark H » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:35 am

Hey Charlie (Groh), Don't you have some San Joaquin Cabs recordings in your collection?


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Post by SCVBaritone » Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:13 pm

The list goes on Charlie Groh, Dan Barkley,Dan Smith all contributors on Munson's California Drum and Bugle Corps Scrapbook with old pictures of every single D&B that existed in California. SCV,Anaheim Kingsmen,Cabs,Commodores and Blue Devils.They also have sound recordings of the SJ Cabs with AJ Vierra's smooth solos. Brian,here's your chance to time travel back to days of yore in the golden state....thanks Mark for the Charlie Groh tip.....Ben
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Post by Dave Scott » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:13 pm

In 1968, while stationed at an electronics depot in Sacaramento, I attended a couple Caballero rehearsals and even marched in a parade with them. It was a small corps, but there were some great players like Ralph Orlandella on contra and drummers Donny Silva and Keith Ballard. AJ Vierra was a solid brass tech and arranger who wrote some really nice charts. AJ also was a mentor for John Zimny when John got out of the Air Force and moved to CA in '74 to begin working with the Freelancers.

Perhaps John or Ralphie-O might have some info on AJ?
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Post by SCVBaritone » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:35 pm

Thanks Dave, I remember Ralph and especially Don Silva who I just e-mailed about a photo I found of my sister playing baritone with the All Girl Capitalaires D&B pre Free Lancers.The Silva family are a class act and one of the most caring folks I ever meet. I will follow up with Don and Ralph and see if I can locate AJ. I want to say that Royal Airs in my opinion as well as many others raised the bar for drum corps excellence back in the mid 60's to late 60's.....Brian can probably pinpoint those great performance years and I'm not certain but I believe Gail Royer was a judge during one of Big Blue's performances......Ben
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Post by Dave Scott » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:49 am

Ben,

That was the 1965 VFW Nationals you are thinking of when Royer was judging brass and was so impressed with the Chicago Royal-Airs. RA won all three Nationals that year, VFW, CYO and American Legion.
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Post by Bradshaw » Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:35 pm

I am so excited to see that people out there remember the Cabs. I was a member of the color guard from 1964 to 1966. I remember well A.J. Vierra and Manuel Pimentel as well as several other members: Ron Serre (drum line) Bill Watson (bugle) Keven Underdown (bugle) The DeAlbar twins - guard instructors, the Clausen twins, color guard. I was marching when we were invited to Disneyland for a performance in the Main Street Parade, for the Camillia Bowl game in Sacramento, two Chinese New Year parades in San Francisco and lots of parade and field competitions. In those days we were the only senior corps and won most every parade and field performance we participated in. We have an annual D & B corp competition here in Stockton -- Moonlight Madness and I attend faithfully. I guess you never get it out of your system.
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Post by Brian Tolzmann » Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:25 am

Bradshaw wrote: the Camillia Bowl game in Sacramento


First off....welcome Bradshaw!

I almost forgot about the Camilia Bowl game. I remember watching some of those on tv in the early 1960's.
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Post by HerbWilcox1 » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:07 am

I'm a freind of A.J. and was a soprano horn player in the Cabs from 1965 till they folded and went on to play for the Lodi Sentinals. AJ moved back to Springfield, Mass. and is now teaching the Marksmen, a senior corp. I talk to him about once a week since we go back to the 50's when I was with the Kingsmen D&B from Fitchburg, Mass. and we use to kick the Marksmen butt every week. I live in Atlanta, GA. now. The last couple of years I would fly back to Mass. pick him up and we would go to the DCA Championships in Scranton, PA. or Rochester, NY. He was way ahead of his time with his music. I just recieved a CD of a 1968 Cab show of whitch I do a couple of solos, had to toot my own horn ha ha ha, and if you heard it with earphones its as good or better than any senior corp going today. When you consider the horns we used with one valve & a rotary he did a great job in the arrangements. He was and still is a unique talent and inovator in this crazy and wonderful world of D&B. See ya, Herb

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Post by SCVBaritone » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:32 pm

I'm sure AJ remembers me. Tell him I marched with the Renegades at the Chinese New Parade in SF early this year and Charlie Groh played contra, I played 2nd bari. AJ had a lot of patience with us kids back in the early days when I was 14 years old and marching with SL Royalaires. The Stockton Cabs were my drum corps heroe's and my pop and mom's favorite corps. Yes, they were ahead of their time back then. I'll always remember "Misty" and "Spanish Harlem" great stuff. Tell AJ hi for me. That's great news he is still teaching brass.

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Post by Royalaircanada » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:27 pm

To Herb Wilcox, If you happen to see this please go into your outbox as there are two messages for you or please e-mail me at royalaircanada@hotmail.com, Your old drum corp marching buddy.....Larry Caro
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