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 Post subject: Allentown - Part I (7/7/07)
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:51 pm 
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85.700 The Cadets
83.950 Phantom Regiment
83.425 Santa Clara Vanguard
83.125 Carolina Crown
77.400 Boston Crusaders
73.750 Spirit from JSU
72.850 Pacific Crest
70.050 Madison Scouts
69.750 Southwind
68.100 Troopers

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Caption of the night - COLOR GUARD:

17.30 Carolina Crown
16.70 Santa Clara Vanguard
16.50 The Cadets
16.30 Phantom Regiment

Look at the spread! :shock:

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Nice night for the boys from Madison - must have felt good to break the 70 mark.

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 Post subject: Here they come................
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Don't look now people...........but Madison is starting to climb. It will still be a real challenge for them to make it into finals, but NOT impossible. PC is still hanging around (about a point from JSU) and should get into semifinals. We're NOW starting to see the beginnings of some "front runners" - Cadets and Blue Devils (and most likely Cavaliers and probably Bluecoats as dark horse candidates). Phantom, SCV and Crown aren't out of it yet, though - there's still over a month to go. It also looks like Troopers are starting to plateau......I hope not. I'm SO glad that they are back - let's hope that they haven't run out of gas yet.

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I don't think the Troopers are running out of gas. I think maybe the judges might be though. :?

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Both drum judges gave the nod to the Cadets- given who was judging this would be major- also given there were two drum judges actually agreeing in the same contest.


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joninchina wrote:
Don't look now people...........but Madison is starting to climb. It will still be a real challenge for them to make it into finals, but NOT impossible.

After comparing with their previous captions, they do seem to be making many changes obvious by the lack of continuity across
many captions. The percussion scores some improvement.
Madison is a resiliant corp when faced with adversity they rise to the occasion. Close the gap guys!

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Folks, IMHO Madison was underscored last year, and they are being underscored again this year :?:

I really enjoyed Pacific Crest, loved their show and think they have the talent, but should not have beaten The Scouts.

Crown may have done a WOW in CG, but the judges think it's still 2006
and are clocking them in percussion ( NFW IMHO )

Boston is for real, they are really good with an excellent show.

Watching the corps overall it is hard to find any flaws, but you can feel
the difference in performance level groups if you will.

Some quick hits:

Surf is really good and improving.

Hard to believe Troop was gone for a year, they are really back and pushing it hard ( Wilton Parminter would be proud! )

Southwind is very good, but not better than Madison ( unis look good )

Spirit small in drumline, light on mellos. I liked that their guard unis looked like North Carolina lighthouses! Big horn sound nonetheless.

Pacific Crest is good and program is a hoot. How about an Elvis impersonator for some GE points. Best use of narration and semaphore of the night: Mike guy says " In Vegas money talks - you lose! Two guard folks hold up large dice displaying - you guessed it - SNAKE EYES :cry2:

Madison - I guess the adjuciary will punish anyone trying to reprise some form of an OTL. Crowd loved them, I expected a trainwreck and they were anything but! They will be this year's version of Carolina Crown scoring principles.

Boston is good, my favorite Crusader program since 2000, and this corps is probably more talented. They were the first corps to significantly raise the bar, after Spirit nudged it up a bit.

Carolina Crown - crowd favorite - hornline has to be heard to be believed
drum scores _ big time BS ( IMHO ) great innovative show well performed
even drill - if they can stay away from a few judges who have their drum scopres predetermined they may pass Phantom Regiment

BUT NOT Vanguard - Holy Canolis!- this show is for real and performed at close to the level of the current leaders - there are no weaknesses- except for the plants in the crowd yelling Eureka! in addition to Vanguard!

Phantom Regiment - better performance this week but still needs the big horn hit earlier ( Crown has the title currently for big sound hit ) and if as some posters claim the dischord is coming for finals - what is this - a pre-season NFL game ( don't wait too long- you are getting smaller in the rearview mirror of ) ------

The Cadets - clearly the class of the evening. The last two years IMHO featured non-Gino lines - no such thing this year. If you get upset at the corps who don't unleash the horns - you will love this book. Color Guard was much improved this week.

J Birney Crum for fans of DC is like the Holy Grail, you can even get shaved ice to cool you off! - the sound dynamics and viewing angles are great.

DCI - stop the corps warming up within hearing range after the show starts - cellphones are less distracting.

On the way home, it appeared the largest building in downtown Allentown was lit up in Cadet colors :!:

End of the frankiE 2007 live Drum Corps extravaganza! :wav:

Next viewing for me will be the theater semi's :!:

The rest of you who can see the live stuff - IT IS A Very Good Year :clap:

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frankiE wrote:

Crown may have done a WOW in CG, but the judges think it's still 2006
and are clocking them in percussion ( NFW IMHO )


The rest of you who can see the live stuff - IT IS A Very Good Year :clap:


Actually Carolina Crown is doing much better this year in drums than 2006. The judges clearly don't think its 2006!!!


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rysa4 wrote:
frankiE wrote:

Crown may have done a WOW in CG, but the judges think it's still 2006
and are clocking them in percussion ( NFW IMHO )


The rest of you who can see the live stuff - IT IS A Very Good Year :clap:


Actually Carolina Crown is doing much better this year in drums than 2006. The judges clearly don't think its 2006!!!


Check the recaps and look at percussion-music ( soon as i heard who one judge was Sat night I knew Crown would not make a move )

Cadets 8.70-8.70 (17.40) 8.40-8.60 (17.00) Difference Total= .40
Scv 7.90-8.20 (16.10) 8.40-8.20 (16.35) Difference Total= .25
Phantom 8.20-8.90 (17.10) 8.50-8.40 (16.90) Difference Total= .20
Crown 8.40-8.50 (16.90) 8.10-7.50 (15.60) Difference Total=1.30
Boston 8.10-8.40 (16.50) 8.00-7.70 (16.20) Difference Total= .30
Spirit 7.60-7.70 (15.30) 7.60-7.50 (15.20) Difference Total= .10



I stand by my statement they do not move up whenever a certain Drum judge is assigned

I have no qualms with Boston beating them, both of them should be higher

Cadets percussion is the real deal, Phantom Regiment seems to have forgotten the were best in 2006 when they wrote the 2007 program.

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I will also add how Crown's brass is getting a raw deal. I know I was not there, but how are they 4th in brass?

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frankiE wrote:
rysa4 wrote:
frankiE wrote:

Crown may have done a WOW in CG, but the judges think it's still 2006
and are clocking them in percussion ( NFW IMHO )


The rest of you who can see the live stuff - IT IS A Very Good Year :clap:


Actually Carolina Crown is doing much better this year in drums than 2006. The judges clearly don't think its 2006!!!


Check the recaps and look at percussion-music ( soon as i heard who one judge was Sat night I knew Crown would not make a move )

Cadets 8.70-8.70 (17.40) 8.40-8.60 (17.00) Difference Total= .40
Scv 7.90-8.20 (16.10) 8.40-8.20 (16.35) Difference Total= .25
Phantom 8.20-8.90 (17.10) 8.50-8.40 (16.90) Difference Total= .20
Crown 8.40-8.50 (16.90) 8.10-7.50 (15.60) Difference Total=1.30
Boston 8.10-8.40 (16.50) 8.00-7.70 (16.20) Difference Total= .30
Spirit 7.60-7.70 (15.30) 7.60-7.50 (15.20) Difference Total= .10



I stand by my statement they do not move up whenever a certain Drum judge is assigned

I have no qualms with Boston beating them, both of them should be higher

Cadets percussion is the real deal, Phantom Regiment seems to have forgotten the were best in 2006 when they wrote the 2007 program.


You might be right. But they are doing much better than 2006. They were not a very good drumline in 2006 and their scores held the corp back. This year they are in much better shape score wise.


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